Brian & Ramona | They Stopped Chasing Goals And Started Building Stewardship

Hitting a big revenue number can feel like winning, right up until the moment you realize you’re tired, distracted, and not sure what you’re building anymore. We sit down with Brian and Ramona Long, high school sweethearts turned husband and wife entrepreneurs, to unpack what changed when they stopped chasing “more” and started building around purpose.

Brian shares the fork-in-the-road that took him from a Coca-Cola career with nonstop travel to co-leading a faith-based marketing business in Kennesaw, Georgia. Ramona breaks down how a simple but brutal truth reshaped their hiring: chairs have a function, people have a purpose. We talk about how that one idea affects recruiting, role design, team culture, client relationships, and why “partnership” beats quota thinking when you’re trying to build something that lasts.

Then the conversation gets personal in the best way. Ramona opens up about worthiness, boundaries, and how healing shows up in everyday leadership decisions. Brian walks through health and sleep changes that finally moved the needle after years of trying, plus what it looks like to lead the household with intention and return to active faith. We also share the surprisingly effective “boundary PowerPoint” that helped them welcome their adult son’s family into their home with calm rules and real peace.

If you’re a small business owner, founder, or leader who wants purpose-driven growth without losing your faith, health, or relationships along the way, this one will land. Subscribe, share this with a friend who’s been grinding, and leave a review with the biggest mindset shift you’re taking from the conversation.

Transcript

Welcome To The New Studio

SPEAKER_01 0:35

Number one, guys, phenomenal, phenomenal couple right here, and phenomenal story, which is why I asked you guys to come in here and I said, let's film some today and get a little podcast episode. So you're our first podcast that we've recorded here in our studio. This is it. First one. So we're gonna get we're gonna get it. We're gonna get in it right here. So talk to me real quick, Brian. Take just a second, introduce yourself, where you guys are from, what businesses you own, what got you into this room?

SPEAKER_02 1:02

So I'm Brian Long. Lona's my high school sweetheart. We live in Kennesaw, Georgia. We've been down here since 2017. What brought us down is I worked for Coca-Cola for a long time. And they promoted me and brought me down here, and they had me traveling the whole country. So I had to make a choice. Do I live life alone down the road because that's where it was going? Because I was never home. Or do I stop and we have a conversation and Mona was teaching locally? And we decided that we were going to change the whole direction of our life. And I left Coke,

Leaving Corporate For God’s Plan

SPEAKER_02 1:40

she left teaching, and we started a business called Money Pages. It's a franchise out of Jacksonville, 25 years old. And what we did is we thought we sat down and we said, What do we want to do? We stopped our life and we said, What do we want to do? And we said to each other, this has to be God's plan. This has to be built on the principles of him and for him. And we sat down for a long time and said, Yes, we want to do Money Page. We looked at tons of different franchises. Money Page is faith-based. They're in Jacksonville. They have a sidearm that's a philanthropy arm that works with Tim Tebow and guys like him. And we said, that's what we want. We want to build a company where we can help people. And we named our company. When we were sitting down coming up with a name, we said, We're going to DBA as Money Pages, but we want to name our company. And Mono's like, it's God's plan. And I said, That's it. God's plan. So we named our company GP Marketing for God's plan. And our what we focus on is God's plan, God's people, and God's purpose. And we're threading that into a company and hiring people that way.

SPEAKER_01 2:53

Now it didn't start off that way, but it's turned into a quick quick promo for building a world-class team. Obviously, some of that stuff you guys have done the work. How big of a difference has it been in your hiring?

SPEAKER_02 3:06

For us, we were hiring kind of blindly at the beginning. I mean, I worked for Coke, like I should know, right? But I didn't, I didn't.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

No, we didn't.

SPEAKER_02 3:16

So we hired for the all the wrong reasons.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

So anyway, so let me let me jump. Let me let me jump back in this really quick for you guys on the hiring. I'm gonna let you answer this question, Ramona. So you guys have been connected with us since actually I came and spoke at your B I group that you run. I spoke at your B and I group with Chaz, who's in our corner. And Chaz was like, hey, you got to get Ken to come out here and speak. So I did. And then from there, walk us through a little bit of that journey. Y'all came to create. Tell me about what's happened in your life since that second week in January when I met you guys.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

So truly thank you, Jesus, for the friendship that exists with Chaz Becker because he's the one who really said, Ramona, you and Brian have to come to this. Ramona, you and Brian have to come to this. If Brian can't come, you need to come to this and bring your team. I don't care, I'll pay for it. You got to come to this. And I had said to Brian, I'm like, hey, you know, we really should go to this. And he was like, I don't think I want to go.

SPEAKER_02 4:18

I'm too busy.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

I'm too busy. I'm too busy for a God conference. So in the end, he came with me, and we actually brought one of our team members. And at that point in time, we were like all of you, grinding, just busy, busy, busy, trying to be productive, trying to, you know, white knuckle the wheel and all of that. And we got there, and the five pillars just we looked at each other and we're like, this is exactly what we've needed. And we've gone down the road of business coaches and things like that that did not at all move the needle for us on any front. And literally that one day, that one conference has changed our whole life personally and professionally, from a business side of things. The people that Ken surrounds you with, like Horst from Ritz Carlton. Ritz Carlton, he spoke and he talked a lot about hiring. And we had, and Brian will tell you, he knows the numbers better than I do on the wasted revenue on bad hires. Not bad people, but we were hiring for function and not for purpose. And that was what Horst spoke about. Chairs have a function, people have a purpose. And our company has always had a purpose. You just heard him talk about like God's plan, God's plan, God's people, God's purpose. I've lived my life as cliche as it sounds, and it takes a village as an educator. And we really wanted that to be the focus of this company, of being impactful in the community and working with local businesses and you know, spreading God's word, all that. And that mindset shift, we actually took one our the young man that we brought to create was in a completely different role and shifted him into something else. And he had a big win today that we got a text just sitting here in this conference, and he is killing it for us, and he sees our purpose and how it aligns with his purpose. On a side note, he's in seminary school, but now he's doing sales for us and he's looking at this going, I'm building something here for myself that's going to fund my ability to do more in God's path for me. And this skill set that he's learning and working with people and listening and mentoring them through like how to help them in their business, and knowing that working with us as a marketing agency is about a partnership, not a sales goal number, and creating those partnerships and being honest and saying that sometimes you say no because that's what they need, because sometimes saying no is the kindest thing. It's about being kind, not nice. And these are all things that we've really embraced and had our eyes open to. And you might think common sense, but until you sit down with people and have them reflect that lens, it's just been life-changing.

SPEAKER_01 7:06

What's been your real quick before you jump on that brand, what's been your biggest win, your biggest aha moment in the six, seven months that we've been working together?

Hiring For Purpose Not Function

SPEAKER_00 7:23

That I'm worthy of being the child of the most high God. He knows my story. There's a lot. I mean, it's a from birth trauma story through my life with Brian. And and truly, I refer to life with Brian as like the happily ever after part of my Cinderella life story. And I won't lie, I still struggle. And he'll tell you every day, like the words of affirmation thing. I just really struggle with that feeling worthy thing. That's the thing that you had. The question up there is what truth would you share? Is that as much as I love people and I'm a highly intelligent, highly competent, hardworking, get it done kind of person. I wake up every day going, Do you still love me, babe?

SPEAKER_02 8:08

Just every day I say yes.

SPEAKER_00 8:10

And he does. And I think these sitting down with Ken and really having, you know, going through the hours. I mean, we were the first couple to clearly, because I talk a lot, first couple to not make it through all five glitters in our life.

SPEAKER_01 8:24

So I do a whiteboard session with all of our corner guys, Dimitri and Shane, and all of our, I think we got 13 to 14 guys in the corner. We do, I do a four-hour, five-hour whiteboard session with them at the very beginning of our engagement. And so they're actually in the circle, but they paid the eight eight K for 10 hours of my one-on-one time.

SPEAKER_00 8:41

Wow, was it worth it?

SPEAKER_01 8:43

We did, we did that. And I've never had anybody when we go through our core five framework areas, we'll actually do it in the conference room on the whiteboards, and we map out their faith, health, relationship, business, and finances. And we didn't make it through, which was great, which was fine. But that was one of the things for you too, even in you being able to set boundaries. It's hard for you. Yes. Until we had that conversation.

SPEAKER_00 9:05

Yep. I think part of the setting boundaries was a nice follow-up to the embracing the worthiness. I mean, at the end of the day, we're all not worthy of the grace and forgiveness that we're given. That's a statement. But the fact that I can embrace that, you know, I am a child of the most high God, and he loves me, and he's got me, he's always had me in the palm of my hand. And I look at that footprints in the sand poster a whole lot differently now in my life. But we just recently had, we're obviously we're high school sweethearts, but we didn't get married till 30 years later. That's a story. If you want to hear it, it's a healed by God mafia. It's like a hallmark.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

That's not like a story over a taco and a margarita just literally.

SPEAKER_00 9:46

It truly is. But we have my son and his wife and their two little ones, and one of them is autistic, living in our house now. It's been there about two and a half months. Now, mind you, this is our son that we had to tough love out of the house at 21. Because no, you're not going to wake us up at 3 a.m. in the morning playing video games as a 21-year-old drinking and swearing at a 13-year-old from across the country in a video game. No, while you're driving pizza, delivering pizzas 20 hours a week. Get out, get a job, get a life, be a grown man. Like, let's have that happen. So, fast forward a decade, we're we're married, we're working, and he's looking to level up in his life. And we had a long conversation. It was actually more his idea than mine. And we brought him back in and we sat down with Ken and we talked a lot about the relationship and the dynamics and all that had occurred and whatever. And so I put together a 20-slide PowerPoint on the boundaries of moving into our house. And I will it was, and we spent two hours walking through that thing, his wife and himself and the two of us. And I will tell you best thing I've ever done in my life because my son's big, I'm not a liar. And I'm like, okay, great. So, like, we talked a lot about communication. Don't come at me. Like, we don't yell at each other. Yelling's not a part of my life anymore. I'm like, I'm not having it, like, we're not gonna go there. And he started, and it was in there that if we feel like we can't have calm conversations, we're gonna walk away until cooler heads prevail. And then the next slide was, and if we're walking away and you don't want to let it go, we're gonna agree to be reminded that we're gonna walk away until cooler heads prevail. So we had two weeks in, we had that moment as mother and son. And I was like, Look, you're getting a little feisty. And we agreed we'd walk away till calmer heads prevail. So I'm gonna walk away right now. And I started to walk away. And he did that and like came up out of the chair like he was gonna come run after me to like keep it going. And his wife went, Oh no, no. And so he turned and went, Don't you tell me? And I so I whipped right around and said, you know, we walked through that PowerPoint and you agreed that we weren't gonna do this, and you agreed that you'd be reminded. I said, So were you lying when you said yes? Or are you gonna make a different choice now? And having that go-to of well, because I get a lot of the for those of you with kids, I'm sure we never said that. Yeah, it still happens at 32. I'm just gonna throw that out there. So be ready for it. But it has been wonderful. I mean, different, obviously, but no yelling, no fight. Like that batteries things made all the difference, and it has been a really successful transition, a blessing for us to get to be around the little ones, especially Poppy with the with Kenny, our autistic grandson. Like he is so engaging with him. Like it's just such a blessing. But I don't feel like it would be going that way if we hadn't done the PowerPoint, and we definitely wouldn't have even thought about the PowerPoint or boundaries had we not talked about the dynamics of relationships, that's second pillar. So it really, I mean, from a personal and a professional, it's just been life-changing to have you in our lives, Ken.

SPEAKER_01 13:20

Thank you. So, you guys, the business side, because guys, here's the deal uh everybody comes in and they think they're here for business or finances. And about 97% of the time, it has nothing to do with business and finances, it's faith, health, and relationships. I'm telling you, almost every time it's faith, health, and relationships, which for you guys exactly what it was. Business was already doing good. You guys were you guys were multiple seven figures or nearing multiple seven figures in your business. What made you take the step, Brian, to get connected in the circle and get connected with us at GSD?

SPEAKER_02 13:52

We got to a certain point, we kind of plateaued, and I didn't have a vision and I didn't have direction for the company. We hit two million dollars, and I was like, okay, I worked my tail off to get here. Now what? And I didn't know what to do. So you know, Chaz was in the group and I was looking, right? I was looking to connect with different business leaders and was out there reading about stuff. Like, where do I want this thing to go? What do I want it to be? Who do I want it to be in? I know I don't want to pay any more taxes, so how do I figure that out? You know, all that good stuff. And then Chaz is like, you gotta go, you gotta go, you gotta go. And I was like, I'm too busy, I'm I'm running the business, I'm running around.

SPEAKER_01 14:34

I'm times I hear I'm too busy.

SPEAKER_02 14:36

So it tugs on my heart. I'm like, I prayed that night Thursday night. I didn't decide till Friday morning that I was coming. And I'm like, or no, Wednesday night. And I'm like,

Worthiness And Learning Boundaries

SPEAKER_02 14:47

all right, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna just pause my business life and jump in. And and I got the direction I need in life. Forget about I mean, all five pillars. I needed that. I lost 41 pounds. I've been trying for six years to lose 10 pounds, and it just shed.

SPEAKER_00 15:07

Not an exaggeration.

SPEAKER_01 15:09

What'd you say? What'd you say?

SPEAKER_00 15:11

That's not an exaggeration. I've watched him struggle for six years now with diet after this and whatever, and blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_02 15:18

I have I've done every diet. I love food. I worked for Coca-Cola and traveled the country, went to every sporting event and ate every type of food there is and gained like 80 pounds. Yeah, I weighed 333.

SPEAKER_00 15:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:32

All right. I weighed 280, whatever now. It's fluctuating.

SPEAKER_01 15:35

One of my coolest moments for you guys is hilarious. I don't know if you remember this or not. We were on one of our Monday morning or Wednesday night calls, and you were sharing wins. And I think Ramona said, Yeah, our whole closet, I can't walk in our closets because all of Brian's pants are laying in the floor because none of his pants fit him anymore.

SPEAKER_00 15:51

Oh my god, his shorts fell off in the driveway yesterday, bringing the trash can down. I'm like, dude, you bought new pants, you need new shorts. I kid you not. He was like that song, Pants on the Ground, Pants on the Ground. Yeah, that was him.

SPEAKER_02 16:04

I have to wear a belt with my pants down on my shorts because I'm afraid they're gonna fall down. Like they're just my body's shaped differently now.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

But how good is that?

SPEAKER_02 16:13

How good does that feel for you to know my joints don't hurt, my mind's fresh, and I'm getting more sleep. So that's that's key too, right? I was getting four to six hours of sleep and not good sleep. Going to bed late, midnight, getting up at five o'clock or whatever it is.

SPEAKER_01 16:29

One of the things we talked about in the whiteboard session on their faith, health, and relationships, when we got into the health component, the relationship component, she likes to stay up late, he likes to go to bed early. I said, Well, okay, we'll have to fix that. And so we literally navigated a plan for you guys to be able to do this.

SPEAKER_02 16:47

So we go to bed at like 10, 10:30, and I get my eight hours, I get up before her and shower, and then I wake her up. So that's how it works.

SPEAKER_00 16:57

I'm going to bed at 10 or 10:30, but I'm still kind of laying there awake till about 12, 1 o'clock.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

Which is fine. It's a it's a it's a process.

SPEAKER_00 17:05

I'm getting there. I'm getting, but I also am getting more sleep than I used to do.

SPEAKER_01 17:08

She's sleeping, don't which gives us a good segue right here. Marriage. Tell me about your marriage. Where were you guys at on a scale of one to 10, with 10 being the highest? Where were you at in January? And where would you guys say you're at right now?

SPEAKER_02 17:21

Oh, we're pretty high.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

Maybe we should do the dating game thing we're doing for the corner couples weekend right now. We should do that. We're actually doing a dating game for the corner couples weekend. We're bringing the ages in, we're gonna do a dating game. But anyway, so tell me where you were and where you're at. Where would you say you're at before you were at in January?

SPEAKER_00 17:38

Okay, so I most people are gonna think she's lying, but I'm gonna say ten. That's where you know hear our story, and you'll know why I say that. He's he's yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:49

Now if I say less than ten, I'm in trouble, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 17:52

But no, I think say eight, because I own my own level of ridiculousness.

SPEAKER_02 17:57

We're we were seven and a half, eight, and yeah, I think now we've we've probably gained a point just because we're more focused on I'm more focused on leading the household, right? Like being faith-based, and I mean it I'm ashamed of saying this, but I'm gonna say it because we're authentic, right? We had not gone to church since COVID. We attended online, did all that, but we had not gone to church, and that was one of the first pillars we talked about was faith, right? And it's not that I didn't pray, that I didn't talk to Jesus all day long, it's just that we didn't go and we weren't engaged in in church. Well, we're members now. We're engaged, we're tithing, we're doing all the stuff that we should be doing and giving back to him. And look at this, we got two new hires that are killing it. So he's giving back to us. But for our relationship, I mean, we're high school sweethearts that were soulmates that got re the mafia wanted to break my legs if I kept seeing her. And I was 18 years old, scared the living bug.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

They sent somebody to your workplace.

SPEAKER_02 19:02

Didn't they send somebody to I was standing there like a public working, and he came to the register and gave me all of my all my letters that I wrote, all my mixed.

SPEAKER_00 19:10

All those notes made like footballs that we folded up because yeah, we're that old.

SPEAKER_02 19:14

We're in the 80s, right? I mean, and they came to me and said you can't see her anywhere. I'm like, no, we have this whole plan. Like, we're high school sweethearts, we're gonna go to school together, I'm gonna wait for her, I'm going to community college, I'm playing baseball, all this stuff. And they didn't believe it. They said, No, you're not doing it. She's in high school and you're there and you're done. And they broke so. So I went this way, she went that way. I had three kids. I got divorced after 10 years. She had two kids, we got to get back together. And she had no idea that the mafia threatened me. None until we talked 30 years later.

SPEAKER_00 19:49

That's my mom.

SPEAKER_02 19:51

So our relationship, we're soulmates. Yeah, we texted each other for a long time talking about different things in our life. How do we line up in faith? How do we line up in music? Everything, you know, anything in the closet that we had, skeletons, we're out on the totally authentic. Because I'm like, I'm not doing this again.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:11

And if I do it with somebody, it's gonna be totally out there and we know each other. You know, there's no fakeness going on, right? And we and then I said, All right, it's time to talk to you. Because we did all that on text. We were texting until like six in the morning.

Family Reset With Clear House Rules

SPEAKER_02 20:27

And then I said, I gotta talk to you. And when she when I heard her voice, it was the same voice from high school. And I said, There she is. So I mean, that's how good our relationship is.

SPEAKER_00 20:40

Mind you, I was I was dying at the time too. So yeah, Leahy Clinic boss, the whole thing. So and truly, and after 25 years of marriage and being a C C D teacher in a Catholic church, getting kicked out for leaving an abusive person, I was in a and now I'm dying, I was in a really bad spot in my faith. And he brought me back to church and back to Jesus. And I actually am I healed by God's story from a pastor that was visiting in Africa to a church that I literally went to one time that day, and that was it. It was, and here we are.

SPEAKER_01 21:15

So let me the journey for you guys over the past six weeks being a part of the circle, the whiteboard session. What's the biggest, what's the biggest thing from the number say one thing from the whiteboard session with you that you feel like has changed the most since we had those. So we actually we spent two days together because you guys couldn't get it all in in the four hours. We had to do another two hours session. This is great.

SPEAKER_00 21:39

It it really was. Well, I talked about the faith and all that stuff. I think probably the communication stuff and the boundaries that we talked about. We have an amazing marriage, but a big thing from the whiteboard session and actually just from being in the the community, GSD community, is there are a lot of other husband and wife entrepreneurs to really navigate the difference of who we are to one another at work while still being respectful of who we are to one another in life, because I show up to work and I'm the wife all the time in my mind. I'm not just, you know, the partner in the business. And really learning that communication stuff and recognizing that, yeah, like there's there's a difference in how we function, but we still need to recognize who we are to one another at the end of the day, like and navigating all of that, especially as we're in growth mode and adding people to the team, because it was effortless really when it was just the two of us, because it's the two of us anyway. Like we're in it to in it for life, partners for life, right? There you go. But now we have a team and navigating that, and we clearly communicate very differently. Yeah, strong, silent type. Over there.

SPEAKER_01 23:00

So what shifted for you? What shifted from you from that whiteboard session?

SPEAKER_02 23:05

So for me, I spent 30 years in the food business working from being in a supermarket, putting items on the shelf as a merchandiser, to ending my career with Coca-Cola, being the national director of juice, managing the whole country, $50 million, traveling. So working hard was my mantra. And I worked all the time till nine o'clock at night, like all the time. So I took that into this business and obviously let my health go. Right? Relationship was good. The first one wasn't, but the second one definitely was. But and then my relationship with God was different along the way. So what changed for me is strengthening my faith and then taking care of myself so I could take care of who I'm responsible for. Because I'm not just responsible for me and driving the business. I'm responsible for her, my family, my work family, and all of our clients. I pray for all our clients every day that the phone rings for them. Because that's what we're supposed to do. I'm not there to sell them a quick ad and get revenue and move on down the road and pay my bills. That's just a benefit of doing what I do for them. And that's how we run our business.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

I think part of the the takeaway, and and I talked about it with Josh, my friend back there too, when I met with him last, is it was a flip of a switch of a mindset thing of we're not business owners, we're business stewards. And Ken and I talk a lot about that. I'm I'm feeling very strongly called now about taking all of my teaching background and my my now my business stuff and realizing

Health, Sleep, And Leading At Home

SPEAKER_00 24:47

you're not a business owner, you're still the same steward you've always been. You're just stewarding in a different way in different things and it with a different focus. And so that's where I've been kind of focusing my mindset and my efforts and my professional development in shifting who I've been in the company to being more of the chief stewardship officer. That's like kind of my own personal title for me now in our company.

SPEAKER_02 25:13

One of the major things that I've learned in business, and then it came back to me and hit me in the face with being in the circle, is you can spend your whole life, and God's second thing for me right now. You could spend your whole life working hard, but not realizing the impact that you have with the people you're working with, and focusing on just I got to a certain level in my career, and I'm like, I want to just want to make a hundred thousand dollars and I'm good. Well, I did that 20 years ago. When I got there, I had no idea what to do next. So when you're in when you're doing entrepreneurship and you're running a business, you set goals for yourself, but it's always got to be changing because you'll get to that goal and then you won't know what to do. Right? So it's a constant, it it's never like, all right, I got to that goal and I'm done. And that's why the circle is so great, because there's a whole group of us that talk about how do we just keep improving and reach kind of our vision. It's a vision with a goal of giving, giving back and and doing it in God's favor. But that's one mistake I made kind of growing up is oh, I just want to hit this goal and I'm and I'm done. Chasing the stuff. I don't have to work anymore. I chase status, money, everything. And when I got there, I was like, well, not fulfilled.

SPEAKER_00 26:41

No peace, no joy.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

So for so for us today, we're sitting here. I'm gonna give people an opportunity in just a minute that aren't connected with us to take a journey with us over the next 12 months. What would you say to somebody that as we present this opportunity for them, what would your what would your words and encouragement be for them?

SPEAKER_02 27:00

Lean in and don't be afraid because the fear is never gonna go away. And what Ken said earlier, which was totally awesome, is you gotta break through the barrier of that fear. And then you're gonna have to do it again, and you're gonna have to do it again. One person told me, and we were standing in the back room, we were getting ready to go out and talk, like in front of Coke, right? 2,000 people out there. I gotta, I gotta lead a talk. And he's and I'm like, I'm wicked, nervous, I'm sweating. Um he goes, and this guy was the president of one of our divisions, and he goes, Yeah, I'm nervous too. And I'm like, No way. He's like, We're all fearful, just at different points and different levels. But you know what? When you plow through that fear, it gets easier. It's like when I steal a base or I hit a home run, it gets easier over time. You just you figure out how to do things, it doesn't matter what it is. But you can't when you're afraid, embrace it and plow through it. And that's one of the things that I love to do.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

And I think from a me standpoint, what I would say is is I spent a lot of my life really, really poor. So spending money is hard for me, like really hard, because teacher salary, poor, like that's a thing. Investing in this, my friend Ashley back there says it all the time. You can always make more money, but you can't make more time. So be smart about where you spend it, right? And who you spend it with. That's why I spent a lot of time with her. I just love her. But the money you will spend on the time you spend with them is it's it's just invaluable. It's priceless what you get back. It is absolutely priceless what you get back. Make the investment, truly. Like he he went, oh yeah. He said, what was it, eight grand, like for ten. Yeah. And and he immediately went, absolutely. And I'm I'm on the other Zoop side going, We're we're gonna spend how much for for what? Like what? Like it. And I'll tell you something. I would spend a hundred times that much for what we've gotten out of it.

SPEAKER_02 29:08

In my 30 years being in a professional industry like Coke and and being exposed to speakers after speakers after speakers, some of the men that can't talk to, he is in that, he is at that level. He doesn't want to say it, but he is. And I'm just along for the ride to watch what God does for this group. Glad to be part of it.

SPEAKER_00 29:30

Super proud to be in his proximity. Like we talked about, like Ashley and I were talking about it like long before we went to the create thing, and said, you know, like we're we're in a BI group together. It's a great group. He came to talk to us, it's highly successful, all that. But you know, when you want to level up in your life, you need to level up with who you are in proximity with. And there are people that we've gotten to hear speak and gleaned knowledge from that without Ken, we would have never had access to.

Business Stewardship, Fear, And Proximity

SPEAKER_00 30:02

The next level people that you get to be part of just sitting in a room here in Alpharetta, Georgia, is just unbelievable. And that's all through the proximity with Ken.

SPEAKER_02 30:14

The best and the best part of this group is God.

SPEAKER_00 30:20

Amen.

SPEAKER_02 30:22

I mean, he's here. If you don't feel him here, then you're numb. There's some Holy Spirit in this room right now that I'm on the edge of crying, and I don't cry.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

He does not cry.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

Yeah, that's what police just said earlier. That didn't work out well for her either, did it?

SPEAKER_02 30:36

I'm emotional. I'm emotional when I, you know, my mom died. I was a mess.